“I know my options.
I still haven't chosen.”
Sell or keep building. Change the partnership. Step out of the role. You can explain every side of it, including why now is never quite the right time.
For founders & executives · Utah
Un-therapy
for executives.
For the decisions that involve your company, your relationships, and what you actually want from your life.
Request a conversation
A 30-minute conversation. No charge. No commitment.
The workPrivate, nonclinical advisory
The formatTwo three-hour sessions a month, with brief follow-up between sessions
The commitment$X,XXX/month · three-month minimum
What it means
Un-therapy: a long, private, nonclinical conversation for decisions that refuse to stay inside the business. We can talk about the company, the relationships around it, and what you want from your life—then decide what you are prepared to do next.
When to call
Something needs
your attention.
You can be good at running a company and still find yourself circling the same question on the drive home.
“I know my options.
“This works for the company.
Does it work for us?”
The travel, the hours, the next five years. A decision you make at work becomes a life your partner and children have to live with, too.
“I built what I wanted.
What do I want now?”
Maybe you still love the game. Maybe something has changed. You want room to examine that without everyone assuming you need to quit.
The whole conversation
A conversation where being honest doesn't create another problem you have to manage.
You can talk about the business and the people living with it. The decision, the friendship it might cost, and the part you haven't said out loud. You do not have to arrive with a tidy explanation.
How we work
Long enough
to get past the first answer.
Three hours is deliberate. It gives us time to lay out the whole situation, notice where your explanation stops adding up, and get specific about what happens next.
We meet twice a month, usually walking at a conversational pace. An indoor option is available when weather, accessibility, or privacy calls for it.
Say the whole thing.
We give the situation time to become clear. What happened, who is involved, what you want, and what makes it difficult.
Look at it differently.
I ask direct questions, test assumptions, and tell you when your explanation doesn't add up. You can disagree. That is part of the conversation.
Decide what comes next.
A choice, a conversation, a change to an agreement. We get specific about what you are prepared to do and return to it at the next session.
What changes
A clearer sense
of what you want.
And what to do about it.
You know what is yours to carry.
We sort through your responsibilities, other people's expectations, and the commitments you have taken on without ever choosing them.
You move forward on a decision.
You understand what has kept you circling, which tradeoffs you can accept, and what you still need to know before choosing.
Your choices account for your life.
The company, the marriage, your health, your time. We consider the consequences together so more of what matters gets a say.
You hear your own judgment.
You get better at noticing when habit, pressure, or keeping someone happy has replaced a choice you would make for yourself.
Who you're working with
Hi. I'm Katie.
I worked beside CEOs as an Executive Assistant and Chief of Staff, and with C-suite leaders in AI operations. I saw how often the official business problem was only part of the problem. The rest involved identity, loyalty, marriage, exhaustion, ambition, and what the person actually wanted.
I trained in clinical mental health counseling to better understand what shapes a person’s judgment, relationships, and choices. That training sharpened the work I already cared about: helping executives think through decisions that do not stay inside the business.
Here, I bring those experiences together in private advisory work. I can follow the business context, ask about the personal consequences, and tell you when your explanation does not add up.
MASTER'S IN CLINICAL MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING
FORMER EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT / CHIEF OF STAFF / AI OPERATIONS
FORMER EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT / CHIEF OF STAFF / AI OPERATIONS
One straightforward engagement
Two sessions a month.
Three months to start.
$X,XXX/ month
Three-month initial engagement.
Continued work is available by mutual agreement.
Billed monthly.
- Two private, three-hour sessionsUsually spent walking, with other settings available by arrangement.
- A brief check-in between sessionsTo revisit an action, prepare for a conversation, or discuss what has changed.
- Preparation and follow-throughI keep track of the questions and commitments we are working on.
- Business and personal, togetherYou do not have to separate the company from the rest of your life.
- A review at three monthsWe look at what has changed and decide whether further work would be useful.
Practical questions
Before you decide.
Is this therapy?
No. “Un-therapy” is my shorthand for private, nonclinical advisory work that makes room for the business and the life around it. We can examine decisions, relationships, responsibilities, communication, and what you want to change. The engagement does not include mental-health assessment, diagnosis, or treatment.
Can we talk about my marriage or family?
Yes. We can examine your choices, responsibilities, communication, and what you want to change. This engagement does not provide couples or family therapy.
What if I already have a therapist or coach?
We will discuss what you already have and whether this would add something useful. An existing diagnosis does not automatically rule out coaching, but treatment needs belong with your clinician.
Where do we meet?
Walking is the default, not a requirement. In Utah County and the surrounding area, we can meet on a trail, at your office, on a golf course, or around another activity already in your week. The setting should make it easier to think and talk without creating another logistical burden. We discuss the privacy limits of any setting before meeting.
Can my company pay?
Yes, by agreement. The service is invoiced as advisory work. Before starting, we establish who the client is and what, if anything, the sponsor receives. Tax and expense treatment is for your advisers to determine.
How private is it?
We agree on confidentiality and its legal limits in writing. I do not record our conversations. Coaching does not automatically carry the same legal privilege as psychotherapy.
Start here
What's on
your mind?
Start with a 30-minute conversation. Tell me what you are carrying, ask your questions, and decide whether you want to take the conversation further.
You do not need to have it figured out before we talk.